Monday, July 4, 2011

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  • simple1
    05-01 01:52 PM
    yes, I want GC for my wife. 6 months to a year addtional wait is ok. Provided I get cleared soon.

    Come on, your comment "limbo for five years" without basis. The FB2 cat is not very far behind. Only 6 months - 1 year behind in most cases. check VB.

    Stop using words anti etc. I am just like you frustrated like hell.

    My primary point is EB dependents must be out of EB quota.
    There is no legal basis for them to be in EB quota. period.

    I would not support this at all. Though it would clear the back log for the primary immigrant. What about the spouse and children. When you get your GC, dont you want to get it for your spouse and kids. Do you want them to keep in limbo for five years. It can be counted against family quota but should be given along with the primary. Otherwise its crap.

    This might be antis work to divide the community. So be aware.




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  • adde72
    07-06 04:53 PM
    DC is the right place even on a weekend also just protesting infront of the uscis office will get media attention .....we should plan for this.i know less than 1000 people will be a failure ..can we try to get the mood of the IV for this kind of event ...




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  • GCDream
    07-03 09:01 AM
    I am with you guys. Lets do it.




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  • makemygc
    07-07 09:01 PM
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    Just came back, here is my report:

    - There were five Chinese and seven Indian people at the march. It was small fun group.
    - The group was small but the outcome as you will note from my report below was productive
    - Fighnow, who is the Chinese member of mittb.com had initiated this 7th July march, because of the short notice we couldn't publicize this event but still it was good to see a bunch of people show up.
    - Fightnow, and his friends were fully prepared with big banners and all, with appropriate slogans
    - In the beginning there was some police presence but they left an hour later, I guess because of a small group
    - We carried our placards and banners on the sidewalk and got lot of "honk" support from people driving by.
    - Luckily a Chinese TV station happen to be in the area and interviewed many of us. The station is called KCSN 30, if I remember correctly and this news story will air on Monday evening in Bay area. I will post details about this after hearing from fightnow.
    - The parking is free on weekends.
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    What we need to do is:
    - Organize a bigger march on 14th July
    - Organize a similar event in DC if possible so get more mileage
    - Prepare some banners and placards etc.
    - Bring water, it was warm
    - Have fun
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    Let me know if you have any questions or suggestions

    All kudos to you guys. Hope we can organize a bigger rally in DC sometime soon. Time to come on the roads now. People needs to know.



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  • RNGC
    07-06 10:03 PM
    When I was in DC sometime last year saw a group of people standing in front of the capitol building holding signs that circumcision is cruel!!....

    I am proposing that we atleast 50-100 members who can go to DC on a weekday morning, preferably Monday, should stand in that area, with signs highligting our problems, so all senators/congresspersons can see us, I guess that place is specifically for demonstrators, .....we can start from DC on Monday afternoon to our place.

    But we need help from DC locals to get permissions...and send a copy of the permissions to all those who plan to attend....

    Any date before August 15 will be too early I think, we shoud have enough time to plan to organize this....even 50-100 people would be good....we can take the entire family with kids and stand there for 2-4 hrs.....


    CD campaign:
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    I had one more idea....how about we put all the material , not only issues related to Jul 2, but all our issues, create an excellent coloured PDF version, write to CD, label it and send the CD too all senators/congress persons/Governors/lt.governers/President/etc etc...we should send this CD to atleast 1000 people and atleast 500 media contacts....

    CDs being cheap, it should not cost much except for mailing it and we have some great talent in IV in writing the material.....

    Nowadays CEOs/Politicians are so used to presentations etc...so CDs might help


    Can we setup a poll for CD campaign.... ?




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  • SGP
    09-27 09:45 AM
    saw an interesting video on youtube the other day. The first thing that came to mind was the eb2-eb3 fights. If only we can fight together rather than each other ! ;)

    youtube - every indian must see this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dc4ultkrjsw) exellent one. United we stand divided we fall. The british too took advantage of our non-unity. Let's learn a lesson from our history.:)



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  • srikondoji
    07-08 11:24 AM
    Well said.
    Such intricate details won't come out in interviews or even personally talking to them. Only lawyers can do it as part of a fight with lawsuits.

    1)Why they have to make everybody current?
    2)Why they were working weekends (actually heard that govt employees working during weekends is illegal) to clear 60,000 visa numbers?
    3) Why did they pick july 2nd to revise the bulletin and did not pre-warn potential applicants?
    4)Why no one from DOS or USCIS is talking about exceptions and or remedies for those july applicants who wasted thousands in 2 weeks?
    5) What was that urge, which compelled DOS to make everybody current?
    6) What will happen to those applicantions reached early morning on july 2nd before revised bulletin became public or those who mailed on june 29/30 for July 2nd delivery?
    7) Why did USCIS clear so many applicants by-passing security checks and clearances?
    8) Why was there a mad rush in the last 2 weeks of june when in reality visa numbers would go waste on sept end?
    9) Why USCIS always talks about under staffed when they are in a possition to clear 60,000 applicantions in a matter of days?

    Any more?
    --sri



    H1bmajdoor -- the blunder I am talking about here is making the dates all current (the original July bulletin) -- who the hell asked them to do that?? Why not move them another year forward? Had they done that I doubt USCIS would have panicked and gone crazy approving people without security checks, approving people whose dates were not current in June or even on July 2.

    That had nothing to do with the law, or the ceiling set by law -- it was an arbitrary roll of the dice by DOS, a decision made WITHOUT consulting USCIS.




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  • abhijitp
    07-08 04:04 PM
    No postings on the windows of those Bharat Bajars and Cash N Carrys and Kumuds. Can't the i-phone designers and router gurus make Ashas and Abhijeets invisible with some eye catching posters?



    Something like this would certainly spread the word in at least the indian/asian community.
    Also, PERSONALLY send out emails to linkedln contacts/ various yahoogroups/alumni groups you are part of. I just did that.



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  • unitednations
    03-08 10:07 PM
    This is what puzzles me, on one hand you tell us 'You couldn't even begin to imagine how many cases like this there are'....
    Which is exactly I have been saying, unless we do something EB3 India could be waiting for a decade or 2...
    But on the other hand if I want to address this issue in a manner which could see least resistance, you tells me I'm living in 'Utopia', administrator threatens to 'Ban' me ????


    On other hand

    Let me give you a story:

    On one of my teams; there was a super star supervisor. He was accused of having inappropriate e-mails.

    HR wanted him fired and opened up a big investigation. His manager comes to me and tells me that we have to do everything possible to save him as he is a very key person and irreplaceable.

    I went upto HR with my boss to tell them that this particular person could not be fired under any circumstance and that we should let this indiscretion go.

    They should be and my boss the e-mails. The e-mails basically were so male chaveunistic and racist. I probably had sent these types of funny jokes in my career and so had my boss and probably so have all of us. We didn't think it was a big deal when taken in context but we had to risk our own credibility and fight with HR to save him. In the process of doing so; we would have lost our credibility with the evidence against him. Even if we fought it; we would have still lost but it would have stained our reputation with HR area by trying to fight for this guy.

    Now; senators/congressmen who don't have much knowledge and you present to them why the country quota, etc., should be changed; will be given evidence through their research of what is going on with h-1b, labors in fast procesing states, etc., In this environment where there is sentiment against immigration it will fall on deaf ears and maybe even skew things in the future for you with the politicians because they are getting insight into this stuff at the wrong time.

    Take my example of adopting newphew. As I said this isn't the only case; when they start seeing that number of people from India is due to many causes (arranged marriage and adding dependents always from India after they arrive here; staffing companies, h-1b violations, etc, etc.,); the circumstances are not on your side. This is the fourth recession I am living through in this country. In just about each one; immigrants bore a dispropritanate share of blame for the countries ills.




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  • simple1
    05-02 07:43 PM
    got PM with the following quote.

    Looking forward to have access to donar-thread on monday to find out the exact INA language that counts ebdependent in ebquota, that the PM refers to.

    Have a good weekend.

    The lawyer of simple1 is not correct. INA specifically has the language for counting all immigrants (including spouses and children) towards numerical limits, and, we have been working to include provisions to eliminate counting depents towards numerical limits. Doing such extra effort as mentioned in the first post of the thread is not going to be helpful. When there is a bill we should be pushing towards not counting dependents and it is more straightforward. That will take care of the backlog issues to some extent. Admin fixes do not change laws, so admin fix for this is not possible as some suggested



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  • LongWait2005
    07-19 08:05 PM
    It is really worthy contribution that one could make towards a great cause.....




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  • desi3933
    08-08 11:42 AM
    I got an email today from USCIS stating this
    Current Status: Card production ordered.

    I did not receive any other approval notice. I hope this means that our 485 is approved and the cards have been ordered ?

    My PD Is May 2003

    Congrats!

    Welcome to the club!


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    N-400 Oath Date on Aug 19th



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  • GC_LOOKIN
    08-23 01:33 PM
    Hi,
    I got my EAD today...Even i received my EAD also...Mine is sent to NSC on july 2nd...I received EAD's from Texas Center...I think my application was transferred to Texas...I have approved I-140 from Texas...Are receipt numbers for EAD, 485, AP are in serial? I haven't received receipts yet...I filled G-28...my attorney did not receive my receipts...I don't know what is going on...

    Congratulations..my application was received by NSC on July 2nd too, and I haven't received anything yet..hope i will get it sometime soon...so are all the applications that went to NSC on July2nd are getting transfered to TSC ??




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  • Pineapple
    10-26 11:55 AM
    Thanks for clarifying. At first glance, the points you propose seem eminently reasonable and cannot be disputed. However, the real issue here is not what we "should" but what we "can".

    Re contacting NumbersUSA and FAIRUS, do go ahead but I'm certain there is no chance of them holding hands with us and singing 'Kumbaya'. The discussions and postings on those sites look like they have been written up by "Ed Anger" of the World World News :D

    And re toning down immigration bills to our advantage, you have to recognize that the primary issue is not that a bill will be passed which will not be optimal - the issue is whether any bill will be passed at all.

    Hi Pineapple,

    That is my favorite fruit !

    Very simple.

    1. We should focus our resources and lobbying efforts to tone down immigration bills on our behalf. Spending our money to go there and put one more soul to say to Sen. Specter "vote for this bill" does not cut it.

    2. We should use our lobbying resources and connections to contact decision makers from NumberUSA, FAIRUS.org and other major organizations and communicate our plans. We should clearly adopt a position against any bill which supports amnesty and offer a sensible, reasonable and fair quantitative increase in Employment Visa numbers. An example of reasonable proposals would be temporary increase of visa numbers, elimination of visa lottery and reallocation of visa numbes to EB, visa number recapture.

    Thanks for asking.

    The Ombdusman



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  • delax
    07-27 12:33 AM
    That is your take ....or they could end up distributing the spill over Visas equally among all EB categories because the original quota is equally distributed too. This benefits both EB3 and EB2.

    Please do not try to pass on your opinions as facts ...they are not.

    It is true that the original number is broken up equally among all categories but the INA clearly states that if the demand within a category is not sufficient to use up all the visas in that category then the excess should be made available without any regard to country limit in that category. Here's a fact from the July bulletin - not an opinion:

    There have been questions raised regarding the way numbers have been provided to the China and India in the Employment Second preference categories beginning in April. Section 202(a)(5) of the Immigration and Nationality Act states that if total demand for visas in an Employment preference category is insufficient to use all available visa numbers in that category in a calendar quarter, then the unused numbers may be made available without regard to the annual per-country limit. (For example: If the second preference annual limit were 40,000, number use by �All Other Countries� were estimated to be only 25,000, and the China/India combined number use based on their per-country limits were 6,000, then there would be 9,000 numbers unused. Those 9,000 numbers could then be made available to China and India applicants without regard to their per-country limits.)

    I dont buy the argument that length of wait (as implied in the letter) should determine eligibility for approval disregarding the clear categorization established by law AFTER the initial handout is made on an equal basis. I have always maintained that any logic used to justify shifting visas between EB2 and EB3 purely based on the length of wait can also easily be used between EB2 and EB1. The fact that EB1 has never retrogressed does not matter. Unfortunately LAW is an absolute entity - there is no compassionate interpretation in civil and common law.

    If a EB3-2002 is approved before EB2-2004 purely based on length of wait and ignoring the categorization after the initial handout then the same logic or rationale can be used to approve EB2-2004 before EB1-2007 by 'holding back' the visa from the EB1 candidate and giving it to EB2.

    I dont think either of us is interested in going down the path of EB2 versus EB3 but to the extent this letter implies/attempts to do that, it is detrimental to the functioning of this group. Cheers




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  • eb3_nepa
    12-11 12:36 PM
    Lets take another view of this "realistic" angle : Its common sense to go after the low hanging fruit first (I-485, filing EAD etc), but what we conveniently forget is in that case we will not have any support whatsoever from the corporates,AILA,health care industry etc. It will have to be a solo effort from IV for which we would need the support and active contributions from at least half of the one million EB applicants affected by this mess. So far, we have piggy-backed on CIR and SKIL both of which were to a large extent driven by corporate interest. If you take these realities into consideration, provisions like 485 etc are not low hanging fruits any more, because we no longer have a stool to stand on. Given the infamous intertia of the lawmakers, introducing our own independent provisions will take a lot more than a membership base of around 6-7K, a contributing base of around 2k and a free-riding/blissfully ignorant base of 900k+.

    Unless we become a truly representative organisation of prospective EB immigrants, we cannot take on the combined might of the anti-immigrants and the H1 thristy corporates. Not to be negative, just giving an alternate opinion.

    Most of the time we have to search for bills to attach our provisions anyways. The only problem is that right now all our provisions are either being labeled as "quota increase" or are being attached to "Quota Increase" bills. Try and remember S-1932, CIR and SKIL. AILA will always be after H1 Increase and so will Big Corps. Only this time instead of seperating ourselves as "EB only" we try to piggyback on either "Quota increase" bills OR we try and piggyback on just about ANY bill we can piggyback onto. Most of the times weird bills get combined (S1932 for example).

    If 2006 has taught us anything it should be "Do NOT try and increase quotas and numbers". For starters it takes TOO long to do and there is MUCH more opposition from even the average American. Remember the IV Core telling us how the Anti-immigrant calls far outnumbered our calls during the Recent SKIL bill? Guys even the biggest Corps have been unsuccessful in getting Visa number increases. Do we honestly believe that with 6,000 members who are NOT a voting base (and may never be) + the lack of funds, we are going to do what these big guns have not been able to accomplish? Am I saying we should give up? HELL NO!! All I am saying is, it is time to review our strategy. Over and above all this, if we think that our current course will bring us victory then let the majority prevail.



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  • newu77
    08-17 04:52 PM
    Has anyone, who filed on July 2nd at NSC, I-140 approved from TSC and have an updated LUD on I-140, got their receipts yet?

    I am still waiting...NO checks cashed yet...




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  • husker
    07-20 10:37 AM
    I pledge $100.

    Can we set a target of $100,000. Lets not forget other IV core too. Even they might have spent money. We should set up an administrative account.

    Also can we send emails to everyone like the action alert, so that more people can join?




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  • vkrishn
    08-25 08:17 PM
    Did you call TSC or NSC.

    Its the 1800 number you call and then escalated to Tier 2.




    ramus
    05-29 08:46 PM
    Great going... Thank you so much...


    In the past week I compleleted the following:

    1) Contrubuted to IV again
    2) Emailed 10 senators
    3) Also emailed two Senators from my state
    4) Emailed 30+ reporters of national news channels
    5) Emailed all local Chicago newspapers
    6) Emailed press release to 20+ Indian newspaper operating in US to increase awareness

    Will keep contributing....




    delhiguy
    07-07 08:44 AM
    What about the applications received before release of bulletin?

    When DOS doesnt have a Immigrant Visa available , its just not available.
    DOS made it effective 2nd ,
    "Effective Monday July 2, 2007 there will be no further authorizations in response to requests for Employment-based preference cases. All numbers available to these categories under the FY-2007 annual numerical limitation have been made available. "
    USCIS by law cant accept any applications effective 2nd.

    People whoes H1B applications were accepted on first day and then were rejected , Can they have done something?

    Sir , we are screwed, thats doesnt mean a law is broken


    We need the legislature intervention to make the limit higher.



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